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Simone met Ananya on the morning of July 13, 2018, during the Congress
of AESOP, the Association of European Schools of Planning, where Ananya
gave the opening keynote speech, titled “Plans for freedom: Borders, cities
and the struggle for justice in the age of Trumpism”. The conversation lasted
approximately 40 minutes and was based on, but at moments diverged from,
a number of questions jointly prepared by Simone and Giacomo. Starting
from the double nature of the margin in Ananya’s work – margin as method
and as object of study – the conversation then touched issues of race in the
making of the contemporary city, mostly in the USA and the Global South. We
also discussed representations of urban margins as places of resistance and
creativity; and then questioned the return of the nation state in producing,
and enforcing, (racial, gendered, class…) margins. Inspired by the topic of
the AESOP congress, “Making space for hope”, we concluded by reflecting
on the paths for building alternatives to the status quo, reflecting on activist
and engaged research practices. By questioning the frequent romanticizing of
the local, Ananya reflected on the need for a global scale in thinking change.
The following is a transcription of the conversation, lightly edited for clarity,
consistence and style.
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Tulumello S., Pozzi G. (2019). Global margins. From the production of marginalization to spaces of hope. An interview to Ananya Roy / Margini Globali. Dalla produzione della marginalizzazione agli spazi di speranza. Un’intervista con Ananya Roy. Tracce Urbane, 5, 26-57. Doi: 10.13133/2532-6562_3.5.15462.